Lesbian Love is in the air!

I was too distracted from that whole article by the pictures.
Li-Loh used to tick all the boxes for my ‘type’. Red head? Check. Hot? Check. In Mean Girls? Check. And when she came out I could pretend I had a chance.

But now she’s marrying the creature? Ugh. Sam Ronson comes across as vile. Hopefully Lindsay will see the error of her ways and move to Leicester.

Seriously though, I hope they are happy, but the whole thing seems a bit quick for me. Ellen and Portia was a proper love story where they fought for the right to celebrate their love for god knows how many years, but Li-Loh and Sam seems like a publicity stunt.

Surely the attitude we should be encouraging (and the one I hold) is ‘straight, gay, bi, whatever.’ I hope they’re happy but I really don’t see the issue in gay marriage and I hope it’s not just a stunt because if it is that’s rather sad, it’s like a politician being married to look more wholesome except the opposite… sort of.

Also, mmm sherbert, I bought some today.

Its not very often that I’m quite pleased I live in Britain. You get the crazies who hate gays and hope they burn, but on the whole most people here really couldn’t care less about anyone else’s business.

Although I don’t agree with marriage being used as a political statement but as same sex marriage is still such in an issue in the U S of A I can understand why the Pete Doherty alike said what she did especially as she is entering wedded bliss with one of the most high profile celebs of the moment.

buttttt davidddddd marriage is about love not making statements!!! its just so unromantic!!! why couldn’t she just be like ellen and portia xxx

Oh Kirsty we know the real reason, Portia and Ellen are both very pretty so they are allowed to fall in love, Ronson looks like she is always on crack so she will never know the feelings of Love so marriage has to be for different reason for the ugly folk.

That statement has nothing to do with lesbianism, much less any ‘militant’ thread therein. It’s a feminist statement, challenging the long-standing inequality between the sexes, particularly the low expectations men have of women and women often have of themselves. I read it as a direct challenge to the patriarchy.

To address one of your other points, I agree that weddings should be apolitical, but they’re not. I was discussing current marriage legislation with Mark the other night, as it happens. As it stands, the only people who can marry, in most nations on this planet, are couples composed of one man, and one woman. Marriage is, fundamentally, a legal institution, and restricting marriage on grounds of sexuality is a restriction of legal equality on said grounds. If I might borrow from Orwell, ‘All animals are equal, but some are more equal than others’. The act of a straight couple exercising legal rights not extended to gay couples is as much a political act as a white person entering a pub with ‘whites only’ above the door, in the 1950s.

The two young women whom we are discussing are treated as second class citizens under the law of the United States of America. They would be treated as second class citizens if they lived here too. Their challenging this treatment by declaring their love publicly and their wish to enjoy the rights their straight neighbours enjoy is a political act, and a righteous one. They should be applauded.

Ronson looks like a young woman who has been up all night working. I don’t see the effects of crack. I see the effects of working in smoky environment in the middle of the night. She looks fine too. She just isn’t wearing much make up. Not an offence last time I checked.

When a lesbian couple gets married and then says ““Tonight shows the power of a woman – to underestimate that is to underestimate the world it cant be ignored” - there is clearly a message about lesbian rights in there as well as as a challenge to patriachy.

But if this is the reading who are these women to say anything about challenging patriarchy? Its not as though Lindsey Lohan has been the poster child for good behaviour or has ever shown any interest in womens issues. And who is Miss Ronson to say anything about womens power she’s only famous due to her brother and her relationship. Girl power in action.

On the other hand I do think that its amazing that such high profile homosexual celebrities are getting married and no longer spending 20 years in a secret relationship *cough*Jodie Foster*cough* I just wish it was the more intellegent celebs making statements rather than these two.

As far as I know Ronson is well know for a prolfiic drug habit, well thats what celebrity gossip on the street.

‘When a lesbian couple gets married and then says ““Tonight shows the power of a woman – to underestimate that is to underestimate the world it cant be ignored” - there is clearly a message about lesbian rights in there as well as as a challenge to patriachy.’

Unless we know the immediate context, we can’t say that for sure. All we have been told is that they spoke of marriage that evening.

We have very little idea about what Ms. Lohan has shown an interest in. Our perception of her is heavily mediated after all. In the case of Ms. Ronson, it’s worth remembering that fame is not a requisite for making valid statements about gender equality.

Its not a requisite at all, but I think its rather hypocritical for Ronson to talk about womens power when she has gained hers through her male brother and through the fame of her other half, it doesnt realy shout out empowrement to me. It says as long as you have a famous sibling and marry into fame/power then women can get what they want.

She’s been DJing for over eight years. In 2000, she DJed on MTV. That’s not a sudden rise to fame off her brother’s recent high profile, although his DJ work through the 90s probably helped her get her foot in the door. She was signed to Roc-a-fella five years ago. Her family are independently wealthy, and her step-dad played guitar for Foreigner. If anything undermines the integrity of her ‘power of woman’ statement, it’s the power of wealth and influence there in the background.

Well, apparently they’re not actually getting married anyway. Access Hollywood
At the moment, especially as homophobia amongst presidential candidates seems to be in the media every other day, stories like these are subjected to far too much scrutiny. If they are really getting married, great. If they’re not, also great, that’s their choice.
We have no way of knowing for sure whether Sam Ronson stating that Lindsay will be Mrs Ronson was a revealing statement or not. We also don’t know whether Lindsay really did buy this overly discussed ‘engagement’ ring for herself.

Another aspect of these two that I am slightly confused about is the ‘are they, aren’t they?’ discussion. As far as I can tell (from the internet and old copies of Heat) Ronson and Lohan have never officially ‘come out’ (so to speak) as a couple. But yet, from pictures and statements that we are afforded, they do seem to be very much a couple. Yet they are constantly referred to as ‘gal pals’ or ‘close friends’. Is this a media attempt to play down the fact that two women can be in a sexual relationship or is it, for once, rather factual?

I confess my lack of knowledge regarding the whole Li-Loh/Ronson, so have they publically admitted to being a couple? Not that they should have to mind you, I’d just like to know.

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